nealadamsdotcom (August 29, 2008 at 7:55 pm)

Gentlemen, Each theory must stand up to the same rigorous standards. THE Pangea theory has slowly snuck more and more bad science to support bad science. Subduction devouring billions of years of oceanic plate right up to 180 MYA. NO MOUNTAINS and suddenly a bursting of mountains starting under a hundred million years ago. No explaination EVER of all the continents fitting together so perfectly. Tiny India buckling massive Asia, without being buckled itself, Massive 4 to5 times the size animals

nealadamsdotcom (August 29, 2008 at 7:55 pm)

Gents, Iron on the surface in abundance and NOT differentiated, Rodinia, Dimmer sun. No deep ocean's cold to bring winter,Sub-tropical climate pole to pole, Shallow seas that covered 2/3's of the continental plates, raising sea level FAR above today, abundance of fresh-water fish in a salt water world, incredible scarcity of fish-families in the deep oceans. Year-round plants evolving to seasonal. It goes on and on.

MrKappaBeta (August 29, 2008 at 7:55 pm)

"No, the crustal age map is quite clear that the oceanic crust west of madagascar started forming around 180 and ended 140" That is my point exactly... Current Paleo-Magnetic models ignore the age of the sea-floor... Google Search, "SOS: Plate Tectonics and Paleo Animation" NOAA holds two models of the current paleo-data... They both begin 600MYA... according to NOAA... Madagascar is detached during the whole time frame. This is the same technique which set universal constraints in 1978.

Enginmaster (August 29, 2008 at 7:51 pm)

"Not according to Paleo-Magnetism... The crust should be at least 600MYA... according to their models." No, the crustal age map is quite clear that the oceanic crust west of madagascar started forming around 180 and ended 140

MrKappaBeta (August 29, 2008 at 7:46 pm)

"I don't think this guy would agree:" Perhaps the people who research slightly alternative scientific theories which explain more with much less deserve the spotlight... perhaps science needs more people who are willing to prove something right rather than prove something wrong... Please do not compare me to Neal... I don;t subscribe to everything that Neal says... What do you subscribe to? Anything which requires you to think? Or only to things which make you laugh?

MorituriMax (August 29, 2008 at 7:42 pm)

kappa, "As far as I see it... the more people who are real geologists who have chosen this as their career may benefit from anything I post." Uh, no. I don't think this guy would agree: yo rrike.c_ om/p ange a (scroll down till you see what he thinks of the stuff you and neal come up with.

MorituriMax (August 29, 2008 at 7:39 pm)

lover, the water is actually hibbleberry jelly that comes from neal's willy wonka chocolate factory that orbits the earth in a magnetic teacup.

MrKappaBeta (August 29, 2008 at 7:38 pm)

"Waving hands and wondering if the foundation As far as I see it... the more people who are real geologists who have chosen this as their career may benefit from anything I post. Helium-3... Charged Comets... Gamma Ray Satellites... New Evidence is piling in... I am not waiving hands. I am simply providing the facts. This could very well be wrong. But I have come across nothing which says it's impossible. I tend to see overwhelming evidence to support it (primarily speculative - like PT)

MorituriMax (August 29, 2008 at 7:27 pm)

kappa, as far as expanding earth goes, it needs to work within the framework of current science, no new Theory is allowed to throw out ALL the science that came before, in other words when you do a theory of expanding earth, you have to adhere to the rules of gravity, electromagnetism, strong and weak force, geology, speed of light, satellite gps measurement techniques (which derive from relativity), etc. Waving hands and wondering if the foundation of science gives you a backdoor? No.

MrKappaBeta (August 29, 2008 at 7:14 pm)

"TODAY refined methods..." Here are two articles which specifically discuss the quality of the measurements taken in the past... One wrote the paper on the pysical size constraints of the earth. "Geocentric axial dipole hypothesis: A least squares perspective" "Presentation Time: 8:00 AM-12:00 PM ABSOLUTE TIME-RECKONING USING TIDAL RHYTHMITES: AN IMPROVED METHOD FOR STUDYING THE HISTORY OF THE EARTH-MOON SYSTEM" If that's not enough... why does Madagascar ignore the age of the sea floor?