almasria14 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

fuck u

almasria14 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

she is fucking retarded . u are excusing it by saying well we gotta understand why they did it.. they did it cause they are pigs and fag bastards

Irrelevant08 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

The woman at the beginning looks like Tom Cruise dressed in drag.

almasria14 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

ur whole country is wrong thats why they didnt even get punished as they should

MaxSluiman (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

GtrMan, Are you telling me that Abu Ghraib was not ordered? Perhaps Guantanamo Is just the work of a rogue General? YOU WORK FOR THE NAZI'S! Do you get it? Wether you commit crimes yourself or not. By guarding or doing paperwork(like For example Adolf Eichman)you enable the others. In law terms enabling is a crime as wel. But it's your choice, you knew, I told you.

GTRMAN7203 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I don't know where you get your information from, but none of my SNCO's or CO's ever ordered me to do something like that. Say what you want, but I don't recall seeing you hunkered down in a bunker with us. And I am proud to serve, and grateful not to have to stand in a fighting position next to pansies like you. You are not worth talking to.

MaxSluiman (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

GTRMAN, You miss my point. We are not talking about a few rotten apples in the organisation. We are talking about an organisation ORDERING this, shifting the blame downwards and the soldiers just obeying commands. Can you serve with hounour, working for an organisation that tortures people? And you know. Even if you don't torture yourself.

GTRMAN7203 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

And you throw all the soldiers into the same mindless automaton category. They were wrong, those few, and have been held accountable whether or not they accept responsibility for their poor judgement... but you are wrong to generalize. There are many of us who have courage, and served over there with honor. I spent time in that prison, and never treated a detainee in a disrespectful manner. There is much you do not know. When mortars fell, I didn't give a damn about some politicians clique.

MaxSluiman (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Gtrman, the veteran is told was defending rights. But every soldier in every war is told that story. And the soldiers want to live in a world were they do good. The reality is that the US soldiers are not in Iraq to defend anybody's rights, but the interests of the Bush clique. Morally good would have been not to obey orders(from a criminal) that go against (inter)national law. But that takes real courage.

GTRMAN7203 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

and your perspective is from what point of view? ....only a sliver in the spectrum of human experience as well. don't tell a veteran what he knows of war unless you have walked in his boots, and he will not pretend to be a philanthropist trying to educate you. but he will defend your right to preach to others on youtube.